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October 2nd, 2011
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Protest II

Gathering in Cuba St.

Speakers. I didn't catch the name of the woman or the first man. I believe he is a lecturer in law at Victoria University. The second man is Green Party MP Keith Locke.

A rapper covering some anti-police track or other.

And we set off to the police station, Parliament not being open or occupied on a Saturday afternoon.

The police were reasonably relaxed at this stage. They were stopping traffic for us, possibly to minimise the length of time we were in the road. The policeman in the close up apologised to me for getting in my shot. I said "Mate, you are the shot" and he replied that if he'd know that he would have smiled. In turn I apologised for the anti-police sentiments that my fellow marchers were chanting, and explained that that wasn't why I personally was there. He in turn pointed out that he was there to keep us safe, which I was wiling to believe was at least part of his job.

Re-congregating at the central police station, for some more speeches and chanting at some unfortunate but staunch police officers, who were unlucky enough to draw a Saturday afternoon shift. I begin to wonder what this bit is supposed to achieve, and figure that these police have no power to change what needs changing, even if they wanted to, so I might as well push off.

After I left apparently the protest carried on to Civic Square, which was full of Rugby Tourists. At this point the police decided that the protesters really shouldn't go that way, and there was some confrontation. The protesters eventually pushed through and went on down to the waterfront.

Things I didn't appreciate - certain protesters taking the opportunity to express their loathing of the police. The police do a hard job amongst nasty people who generally hate them, and occasionally develop some pretty bad attitudes to power and guilt. That is why we don't let them be judge, jury and executioner as well. So those in positions of power in the police are in favour of this bill. This time they're wrong, but they're allowed to be.

The "Yay a protest, what're we protesting about today" crowd. I found myself resenting these people for misrepresenting and diluting my message, damnit

The woman who yelled at us from the bus stop to Get A Job. Ma'am, I have a job. So do many of the people here. We also are educated and informed about What The Government is Up To, and we don't like it.
I bet you're just the type to vote for that nice Mr Key because he's going to get Coro Street back. :P

The whole experience left me feeling a bit meh really. At least I can say I tried.

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Date:October 2nd, 2011 03:10 pm (UTC)
Thank you for trying.
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Date:October 2nd, 2011 06:24 pm (UTC)
i beleive that you hit the proverbal nail on the head when you said,

and then like you said

"So those in positions of power in the police are in favour of this bill. This time they're wrong, but they're allowed to be. "

because i believe that would be a similar dichotomy with protesting against the government in all its various incarnations and organisations, because not all of out government is wrong..just bits of it, so while it was very cathartic to go and yell at the police station, i know that it has pretty much nothing to do with the policemen standing at the front doors, or to do with the police trying to stop us from going over the bridge.. weird the Brooklyn bridge was being occupied at the same time.. *werid* but anyhoo..

this all leads me to wonder if it is that that is stopping most people from coming along and protesting their disagreement with one aspect of the government. or several as the case may be.. this idea that by protesting say the this surveillance bill you are saying that 1/you hate the police and 2 that you hate the government.. which is just not true

so how can we as people protest better.. welli did have a through last night as i was talking with Tatjna and tossing a few ideas into the either. what if we had the Aunty Mazie's Auxiliary and Protest Movement. which involved nicely dressed ladies and men, who had signs and flyers and where very very polite with protesting, yes chanting, yes making a point that we are unhappy but no grand statements inferring that the entire government sucks or the the police are pigs..

i wonder if that would encourage more people to take to the streets, in a polite way.. a kiwi way.. *ponders this*

also i like the photos you took... *smiles*..
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Date:October 2nd, 2011 09:09 pm (UTC)
Gosh I look grumpy.

What was going through my head in this photo:

"I don't like chanting but I want to show solidarity with what this protest is about. Why are we at the police station? Because of the two options we were offered this was the more populated place. But this isn't right. I don't hate the police. Fuck, why am I not up there saying something that speaks about how concerned citizens feel?"

etc etc etc.
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Date:October 2nd, 2011 10:30 pm (UTC)
If you speak half as well as you write, your standing up could only be a good thing. I'd really encourage you to try.

Also, grumpy is an entirely approprate expression for the whole situation.
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Date:October 3rd, 2011 06:34 am (UTC)
But you still have Coro St right, it's just been moved to a different timeslot.

Why don't they replay it on one of the digital channels later in the evening and please everyone?
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Date:October 3rd, 2011 08:48 am (UTC)
Yes, we still have Coro Street. It ranks somewhere around the RWC on the list of things I really can't make myself care about.
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Date:October 3rd, 2011 08:59 am (UTC)
I read this on Stuff today:

"Carter’s overriding wish was for New Zealanders to let go of the hysteria and national tragedy and instead get behind the All Blacks and move on from the shock loss. It is a plea that must be heard if the national team is to end 24-years of suffering."

IS THIS FOR REAL? I wasn't aware that I had been suffering for 24 years! BUT I THINK I MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY HYSTERICAL.
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Date:October 3rd, 2011 09:03 am (UTC)
I think that anyone who has been suffering, I say SUFFERING for 24 years should probably make a bid for voluntary euthanasia.
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